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Mother of Fredericton shooter says she often advised him to see a doctor for help

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WATCH: The first degree murder trial of Matthew Raymond has entered its seventh week. The defence continued its case with testimony from Shirley Raymond, the mother of the accused – Oct 26, 2020

The mother of Fredericton mass shooter Matthew Raymond says he constantly talked about conspiracy theories and she tried to convince him to see a doctor.

Shirley Raymond took the stand today as a defence witness at the trial of her son on four counts of first-degree murder.

The defence and Crown agree that Matthew Raymond killed Donnie Robichaud, Bobbie Lee Wright and Fredericton police constables Robb Costello and Sara Burns in August 2018 and that he had a mental illness.

The defence is trying to prove he should be found not criminally responsible because of the mental illness.

His mother told the court her son believed in demons and that the end of time was coming.

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“He was paranoid. He wouldn’t talk on the phone. He thought all phones were tapped,” she said.

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Raymond said if she was watching TV, her son would say she was watching fake news, that mass shootings such as those that occurred in the United States and elsewhere never actually happened and the people laying on the ground were just actors.

“You need to go to your doctor. You’re sick,” his mother said she told him.

She said he refused to get help and said she was the one who was sick.

She said her son had begun to stockpile food because he thought the end of time was coming and they needed to be prepared, and that included being able to go to the woods to hunt for sustenance.

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Raymond said she began to avoid conversations with him. “There was no conversation. I listened. He could talk for hours. I could not change his mind,” she said.

She said she thought his condition was getting worse and she threatened to call police, but he said if she did, then he would never talk to her again. She said she then decided that he hadn’t done anything illegal and the police probably couldn’t do anything.

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The witness said her son stopped listening to music and watching TV because he thought it was full of subliminal messages of evil.

She said she saw him about 10 days before the shootings when he came to her apartment and was upset with his bank. She said they had a new security protocol and he was having trouble with a password.

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She said it was hot and humid in her apartment and she said she couldn’t deal with any more of his problems.

On the morning of Aug. 10, 2018, she heard about the shootings on the news and she tried calling Matthew to tell him to stay safe. But she said it never crossed her mind that he was the suspect.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 26, 2020.