While the premiers of Canada’s western provinces and territories attempted, for the most part, to portray a public image of co-operation and understanding during their meeting in Alberta’s Kananaskis Country this week, there was one major area of disagreement that emerged during their end-of-the-meeting press conference.
When asked about governments’ duty to consult with First Nations on issues that could affect treaty rights, the response by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith was challenged as “not correct” by Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew.
In Alberta, a recent citizens’ petition calling for a referendum on Alberta’s independence was struck down at the courts over the failure of the province and the proponent, Take Back Alberta, to consult with First Nations — a ruling that drew the ire of Smith, who has vowed to appeal.
During Tuesday’s press conference, Smith repeated her criticism, saying, “I think the court erred in judgment, and I think it’s also anti-democratic, the decision that they made.”
“But we’ll make the arguments in court about what the limits to consult ought to be, and we’ll see how that conversation goes,” added Smith.
“There’s a couple of rounds that we have to go through, obviously, to (the) Court of Appeal, probably also to the Supreme Court of Canada. But we want to make sure that we have a very clear understanding of what the duty to consult really means and what it doesn’t mean, and I think at the moment there’s a lack of clarity on that,” Smith added.
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Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew, who is a member of the Ojibways of Onigaming First Nation in northwestern Ontario, quickly responded, saying, “I think we know that that is not correct — a lot of what you just said there, Premier Smith.”
“It is not up to the petition gatherers to fulfil the duty to consult. It is up to you as the Alberta government to fulfil a duty to consult,” Kinew continued.
“In this case, when there is clearly going to be an impact on well-established existing hunting and fishing rights by putting up an international border, if some would have their way, I would agree with the judge’s ruling that that is going to infringe on rights — and so there is a duty to consult.”
Calling it “not necessarily a disagreement,” Kinew said Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution — which recognizes and affirms Aboriginal and treaty rights in Canada — is a fact and must be respected “the same as the rest of the Constitution.”
In what appeared to be an attempt to extend an olive branch to Smith, Kinew said that “now is the time to work together” and challenged Smith to “hold off on this referendum talk for a year or two and see if we get these pipelines under construction,” referring to Smith’s desire for a new pipeline to the West Coast.
Smith responded to Kinew’s comments by again defending her government’s intention to appeal the earlier court’s ruling.
“And this is why we have the courts, because you can have politicians disagree and that’s why you take it through the court, you take it through the appeals and you go to the Supreme Court and ultimately, though I respect the difference of opinion that Premier Kinew has raised, I think we’ll wait to see how our our Court of Appeals process goes and see what the courts have to say in the end.”
Basically none of Manitoba’s business at this point in time. There is no constitutional requirement for a province to get agreement of all to do what is a poll of the citizenry. If it gets to binding referendum some day, then the legalities start. In which Manitoba could have a say. Until that time would be nice if some principles and integrity are shown by all. Specious arguments put forward by some, including the courts, hardly contributes to democratic society.
The way it USED TO BE – IF you PAY TAXES you have a say in how this country is run. If you DO NOT pay taxes you DO NOT get a say in anything that happens in this country. It all comes down to what we all PAY TO BUILD IN THIS COUNTRY. Reservations DO NOT pay taxes, remember that. “Specific Exemptions: In Canada, Status Indians under the Indian Act do not pay federal or provincial tax on employment or personal property income earned on a reserve. Income earned off-reserve is taxed just like anyone else’s.”
Has anyone else noticed that stories in this section rarly have comments and last for months and months before being archived?
Smith’s advisor quit.
No zhit.
@racist Kurtis: What is Danielle “pretendindian” Smith Cherokee name mean? She who swallows?
Wab Kinew.His Indian name is talks like fox, paddles like gopher. Just saying.
It is not the Alberta Govt. that is proposing separation, so they have nothing to consult. Since the First Nations are apparently already a separate nation, it is not their issue. Therefore they are nor required to agree.
A. Citizen. – You’re clearly delusional. Danielle Smith is nothing more than a corporate schill for billionaire oil companies. Not to mention the fact that she just bent over for Carney at the drop of a hat. Too funny
Smith wants to support industry. Just not the reconciliation industry as that creates no jobs. Her ballz are bigger than Kinews and Ebys combined.
Fishing and hunting stuff is not affected by this referendum, or it’s outcome, so what’s the big deal? Other than maybe the end of the grift and having to actually get a job and pay taxes.
People who don’t contribute anything to the province should have no say about its governance.
Rednecks here are so stupid they need a third referendum to see if they understand the wording of the second referendum about the wording of the first.
So confusing for them.
Bill P. – A white person talking about corruption. Now that’s funny
Oh good.
Bilodeau got out of the funny farm.
Grade six schooling.
@Bill P. You mean in the Punjab? You talking about Indian immigration or what?
To those corrupt Indian band chiefs, consultation is a veto. Ignore them and press on with the sovereignty referendum. The average person living on reserve will probably support Alberta sovereignty for their own personal future interests.
Hey Wab just hit her like your other girlfriends you beat on! Woof Woof
Did David Eby buy those expensive Canada soccer jerseys he gave to all premiers with his own money or from BC tax payers money ?
why ask the last nations anything as they know nothing
Bark at Smith Wab! That will teach her!
what a waist of money,noing very well the province has to consult with first nations.
there will never be a separation ever?
Funny when Smith got rejected at the Orange guy inauguration. What a looser, including all those rightnuts loosers.
The FN are currently satisfied with the billions of annual federal grants and their new land ownership rights. Their primary concern is that Smith may change the status quo.
She’s an idiot.
Another made up rule by Progressives that has nothing to do with citizen lead referendums. Did Carney consult FNs when he decided to go Elbows Up?
Someone show where in the Treaties that it says that the indigenous has to be consulted about anything.
Why does Alberta have to consult with a minority that has stated they are not part of current society. As to the mechanics of the consultation, I believe Alberta never signed on to the abomination of UNdripa.
Which can see how that is working out for BC, which did.
think of your parents your grand parents who fought for this country.They loved Canada
god bless Canada.
Why does it all have to be about Money not about family and friends being hurt.
and that is what is going on with this stupid seperation
Apparently Wab has a criminal record. Assault, domestic abuse. A felon has no credibility
F*ck the FN! WHEN DO CANADIANS GET A SAY!!??
Smith doing a great job as FNs have been detrimental to the progress of Canada. Kinew basically following the typical talking points one would expect from a far left politician.
So one cannot say anything against this Liberal sh*tbag machine that is screwing the country. Global likes it silver. I’m hoping that the CEO gets his Potter’s Field ending as do most of the politicians who have dragged this great country into this quagmire of corruption and deceit!
Bring on the wildfires!
High temperatures coming!
Smith fired her helicopter fire crews!
Needed that tax money for all her lawyers and useless legaL ZHIT.
Wayne: Speak English, not Swahili.
@ Craven: Racist doesn’t even consider how many government cheques Danielle the liar gets.
One of Smith’s many lies was that she said she was Cherokee.
Google it.
Total liar who says whatever she wants at the time.
I don’ care if Smith is a pretend Martian. She is sticking up for the people of Alberta , which is her job and primary mandate.
As long as FNs get their welfare checks they are happy.
Wake up Canada, why do we need to consult natives about anything ,when did the 95% of Canadians who aren’t native vote to give them this power?
GO SMITH !! Put an end to these annoying spoiled people!!! GO SMITH!!!
Why, they are a confederate and have separate identities.
First nation people have there agreement i they they separate that is not part of anything to do federally
Alberta is one big ostrich farm…
Yes…she wants to put her own people or it never will go anywhere.
First Nations aren’t in favor…wth are you talking about?
Seems many first Nations are in favour of separation. The only ones defiantly opposed are paid to do so by the feds….the leadership. The same ones who get the money and keep the wealth while their communities suffer.
No wonder Smith wants to appoint all judges by herself.
She will lose her appeal.
Bets?
She even knows she will lose.
Waste of taxes.
@buckets of zhit: bwahahaha…it’s the law goof. Try drafting a bill that makes sense.
Kinew, that federal judge and the Indian band chiefs have no credibility on this issue. None of them are objective. All should be ignored.
“Consult” is not a veto. The natives need to reign in their corrupt activist chiefs. I for one am not interested in reconciliation with extortionists.
5% should never have the final say over the 95%.
Glen? You ok? Get off the acid.
WHY CONSULT WITH THEM WHEN THEY WON’T CONSULT WITH US AS PART OF THE TREATIES?????
Consult who? Why? All the hard working tax payers should be the only ones consulted. Others, who suck off the government and don’t pay taxes (every race falls under this) shouldn’t have a say
Albertans don’t care what non-Albertans like Wab the Knob think. We want off the sinking ship that is Canada no matter what they have to say.
Why is this only an issue for AB? None of this was even a thought or mentioned when QC did this. Hypocrisy or the realization that this can and would cause irreparable damage.
@JV: Yeah, Liberal Koolaid. Obviously a dumb azz foreign troll. What decade did the Liberals last hold power in Alberta pal? Were we born yet?
@Try this: Yeah, it must be a dead guy, anyone but Smith. LOL
Let’s have another referendum to see who is to blame for all the referendums and stupid recall laws.
@try this: Google it pal. Danielle tried to tell us she was Indian.
We need to get rid of the illegal ‘duty to consult’ If one reads the treaties, natives have the right to hunt and fish on any land not in use by others. that does not mean their right to hunt and fish creates a duty to consult. Just the opposite, they get what is left over, no consultations involved.
This whole mess is due to Pierre Eliott Trudeau. Way past time to clean it up. It can be done. We just need the political will to do so.
Smith is not pretending to be Indian. She is protecting Canadian’s rights. (seems odd to me too…)
Smith pretended to be Indian.
Kinew is one.
See the diff?
Smith is full of zhit.
@Anon. From Serbia. Obvious you are uneducated.
What the f*#ck kind of name is “Veljkovic”!?!?
lol!! Get out of my country, Cora
Smith is an absolute gaslighting moron
I’m just stepping out to grab another jug of Liberal Kool Aid but I will be back to spew a bunch of racist hate filled comments shortly
This country is governed by a bunch of capitulating spineless twats aka Liberals and NDPers
S.F.A ….I’ll give you a hint…stupid…
Answer Cora. Never. In fact this government will toss you in jail for denying it. They don’t exist. I know it. You know it and they know it. What a dirty world we live in
Don’t forget Smith was a pretendindian. Google it.
Now she’s pretending something else.
phuck off Dave.
We owe you nothing.
FNs should be ignored
Canada owes them.nothing
The grift continues with the FNs. So when are they going to present the evidence regarding the mass graves with children in it.
Wab is a native so we would expect that response from him.
Imagine if Canada cleansed itself of the natives like the United States. They never consult their natives, nor do they have to throw billions at them to shut up. Just saying it could’ve been much worse for the natives. Either way, they are defined by perpetual victimhood and after about three or four generations it starts to get real old.
Phuck Smith.
We need a third referendum to see if we want the second one about the first one.
Clear and easy, Smith style.