Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor to President Biden tells the show he believes current White House trade tactics are forcing countries like Canada to forge stronger economic ties to China. And on security like the Arctic, Sullivan shares whether he thinks Canada should work with the current administration or wait until the next U.S. president takes office. Plus, Former Air Force General and Chief of the Defence Staff Tom Lawson's short answer on if this was the right decision by Ottawa was, "no." Although he agrees in principle about diversifying Canada's defence investments, Lawson explains why he has concerns about this surveillance system, especially for use in the north.